Ответ: Растр Sublima
igors сказал(а):
Когда господин Kuvshinov сравнивает их с Creo Maxtone под Prinergy/Evo, он демонстрирует полное непонимание особенностей Sublima.
Игорь, неужели эта болезнь заразная. Ну попробуй - соберись, не один год друг друга знаем. Я бы уже озолотился, если бы все дерьмо в сой адрес на компост переработал. Твоего мне не хватает. Это по личным выпадам.
Про воровство софта - будь добр отвечать там и тогда, где спросили. А не через полгода в тряпочку.
По цитированному. Привожу полностью на английском посты на тему двух гуру из Крео и из Агфы. (Форум -
www.printplanet.com, желающие могут прочитать сами предварительно зарегистрировавшись. Искать по словам макстон и сублима)
Из ответа Steve Musselman Worldwide Business Development Agfa Graphic Systems можно извлечь список осознаваемых им отличий. И уровень значимости их, по его точке зрения.
Author: Dan Blondal <Dan.Blondal@Creo.com>
Subject: RE: Sublima vs Maxtone??
and finally, to answer Jean's question:
"Can you describe the differences in Sublima and Maxtone for us. This is an
interesting topic that should also be shared with the Flexpack forum."
I partially answered this in another thread. Let me repeat myself and add a
bit on for you.
Maxtone and Sublima are both AM screens, with Hybrid treatments in the
highlights and shadows to overcome resolution/rendering limitations. See
previous postings for a description of Hybrid.
Maxtone differs from Sublima in the specific geometries of the AM portion
(Agfa uses ABS technology, Creo uses Prinergy AM technology). It also
differs in the "smoothing" algorithms used to arrange and construct dots at
the extremes ends of the tone scale. The design goals were to minimize
non-uniformities in the Hybrid highlights and shadows.
Another difference is that Maxtone DOES allow users to manually set
minimimum dot sizes in the highlights and shadows. This lets them tune their
screen sets for their flexo printing conditions. If users change lpi, dot
shapes and angles, the RIP simply builds a new screen to suit the minimum
dot settings.
Lastly, Maxtone is complemented by a brand new flexo specific feature called
Hyperflex. Hyperflex is in beta and was just awarded a GATF 2003 Intertech
Award for Innovation (three related links below) Here are a couple links to
articles on the Maxtone and Hyperflex:Hyperflex was designed to improve the
height and strength of small flexo dots, effectively improving the
resolution of flexo plates. Hyperflex makes it possible to print with
smaller flexo dots and when combined with Maxtone it reduces the size of the
minimum dot.
Its still early in the testing, but there is also some promise that
Hyperflex will help regular AM flexo work and may even help FM become a
reality in Flexo. Lots of ground work yet.
http://www.creo.com/global/about_creo/news/2003/030725.htm
http://www.gain.net/PIA_GATF/newsroom/archives/g0703a.html
http://www.bluelinemedia.com.au/index.cfm?pageid=feature&id=14&archive=138%2
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hoping you find this information insightful,
dan
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Author: "Steve Musselman" <steve.musselman@agfa.com>
Subject: Re: Sublima vs Harlequin Micro Screening - Is it or is n't it?
Dan:
(Just back from the Patriot/Bears game.)
Let me address a coupla points. (But I'd
rather read posts from our users like Darren!)
There is indeed difficulty defining the category that
:Sublima, Maxtone, etc. fall into, since they are not
like the early classic Artwork Systems' type of hybrid.
But, I disagree that Sublima and Maxtone are AM screens.
Just because the dots align at established angles - does
not mean that its tone is modulated by size (AM). In these
extremes, the tones are modulated by frequency (FM).
This is why we've latched on to XM for cross-modulation
as a way to indicate that it is not a classic hybrid, but rather
a cross between AM & FM.
And oh - to be young(er) again...
You must have better eyes than I. (Must be that age thing!)
You assert that (with :Sublima or Maxtone):
<snip>
The transition below the threshhold is always
visible making blends and vignettes problematic.
<snip>
With the GATF TechAlert 2003 screening gallery that we both
have, and in looking at our 340 lpi :Sublima - I just can't see the
problems in the vignettes that you claim are always visible.
I even put on some 2x magnifying glasses - no problems.
Yep - with a loupe I can see how we take out the dots. But even
at close and far inspection with no magnification - I don't see
problems in the vignettes.
Hmmmm...
Did those judges that Paul spoke of have young or old eyes?
Cheers.
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Steve Musselman
Worldwide Business Development
Agfa Graphic Systems
978-284-7132 (USA)
steve.musselman@agfa.com
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